GOAT - debata

[DUN I LOVE]

Przemek kiedyś pisał, że Djoković doganiający Federera to na ten moment zwykłe pompowanie balonika. Niestety, liczby są coraz bardziej bezlitosne.

Player Grand Slams Finales 1000s Total (Avg)
Roger Federer 17/67 6/14 24/122 47/203 (4.3)
Novak Djokovic 11/45 5/9 29/89 45/143 (3.2)
Rafael Nadal 14/44 0/7 28/96 42/147 (3.5)
Pete Sampras 14/52 5/11 11/83 30/146 (4.9)
Andre Agassi 8/61 1/13 17/90 26/164 (6.3)
Andy Murray 2/40 0/7 11/88 13/135 (10.4)
Gustavo Kuerten 3/33 1/3 5/67 9/103 (11.4)
Andy Roddick 1/46 0/6 5/75 6/127 (21.2)
Lleyton Hewitt 2/66 2/4 2/75 6/145 (24.2)
Patrick Rafter 2/35 0/2 2/48 4/85 (21.25)

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/fed ... itles-2016

[Damian]

It’s Officially Time to Be in Awe of Novak Djokovic

http://time.com/4357797/novak-djokovic- ... ench-open/

[Barty]

Statystyka najważniejszych tytułów wśród Wielkiej Trójki.

Spoiler:

[matek20]

Ehh, gdyby Rafa nie miał tylu kontuzji...

[DUN I LOVE]

Ehh, gdyby Rafa nie miał tylu kontuzji...

Na dwoje babka wróżyła. Ja uważam, żeby gdyby nie przerwa w 2012, to nie byłoby cudownego 2013, ale to tylko czysta teoria. I tak znakomicie się trzyma w porównaniu do tego, co lekarze mu wróżyli w 2007 np.

[Wujek Toni]

Kontuzje są bezpośrednim następstwem wybranego przez Nadala stylu gry. Gdyby się na niego nie zdecydował, prawdopodobnie uniknąłby wielu urazów, ale też wygrałby 20% tego, co posiada teraz w swojej kolekcji. I koło się zamyka.

Zatrważa mnie, że ludziom trzeba takie trywialne prawdy wbijać jeszcze do głowy w 2016 roku.

[Lucas]

Big Titles: Djokovic Closes In On Federer's Haul

Spoiler:

Djokovic improves his strike rate at top-level tournaments
For the majority of players winning a Grand Slam, a Barclays ATP World Tour Finals or ATP World Tour Masters 1000 title remains just a dream. For a handful of players, who become serial winners, they become giants of the sport.
On Sunday, Novak Djokovic added to his 'Big Titles' haul. The World No. 1 etched his name in the history books with his first Roland Garros title, to become only the third player - after Don Budge (1938) and Rod Laver (1962, 1969) - to hold all four major championships at the same time. He is also the eighth player to complete the career Grand Slam.
By capturing his 12th Grand Slam championship crown, Djokovic is now just one trophy behind record-holder Roger Federer with 46 'Big Titles'. A five-time Barclays ATP World Tour Finals champion, Djokovic has by the far the best conversion rate of any player, past or present, winning one Big Title for every 3.15 events played at this level.
While Federer still leads the field with 47 Big Titles, including 17 Grand Slams and six Barclays ATP World Tour Finals (both records), he is third all-time with 24 Masters 1000 crowns. The Swiss has played 203 tournaments at this level, averaging one title for each 4.3 events played.
Rafael Nadal, who is currently sidelined by a wrist injury, also boasts an exceptional strike rate, winning one Big Title for every 3.5 appearances. He is joint second all-time (with Pete Sampras) for most Grand Slam titles won with 14, and outright second all-time for most Masters 1000 titles won with 28 crowns, just one behind Djokovic's record haul.
Andy Murray, who lost to Djokovic in the Roland Garros final, has won 14 Big Titles - 12 Masters 1000s, including at last month's Internazionali BNL d'Italia (d. Djokovic), and two majors. Murray, who has competed in the same era as Djokovic, Federer and Nadal, wins one Big Title for every 9.7 tournaments played.
Since the ATP World Tour Masters 1000 series launched in 1990, Sampras has been the only player to rival the 'Big Titles' strike rates of Djokovic, Nadal and Federer. A winner of 14 Grand Slam titles and five Barclays ATP World Tour Finals, the six-time year-end World No. 1 averaged one Big Title per 4.9 tournaments played.
One other player whose strike rate is in single figures is Andre Agassi, who at one time was the record Masters 1000 title holder with 17 titles, including six Miami crowns. Agassi also won eight majors and one season finale. His 26 'Big Titles' from 164 tournaments played came at an average of one title per 6.3 events played.
Those historical averages put in perspective the utter dominance Djokovic has displayed in his past 22 outings at this level dating back to the 2014 BNP Paribas Masters in Paris. During that time the Serb has won one Big Title for every 1.29 events he's played, going 5 of 6 at Grand Slams, 10 of 14 at Masters 1000s and 2 for 2 at Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.
Current and Former Champions (Records Since 1990)

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/djo ... itles-2016

[Albert]

Zgadzam się z przedmówcami co do Rafy. Jego styl gry zwiększał szansę na kontuzję, więc to normalne, że opuszczał tyle turniejów, ale właśnie jak Wujek napisał, bez grania w taki sposób nie wygrałby tylu tytułów. W sprawie Novaka sytuacja jest otwarta. Moim zdaniem, jeżeli dorzuciłby pozostałe dwa szlemy w tym roku, to będzie miał ogromną szansę na przegonienie Feda. Jeśli wygra choćby 1 to wtedy ma 13 i już szansę się zmniejszają. Tylko jeszcze jeden aspekt trzeba wziąć pod uwagę. Na każdego przychodzi zwolnienie fizyczne, tak miał Roger, obecnie przeżywa to Rafa, w końcu padnie na Novaka. Wiecznie takiej sprawności mieć nie będzie a wtedy może być krucho z pościgiem. Tyle, że to na razie są zwykłe przypuszczenia ,zobaczymy co nam pokaże Wimbledon. Może ktoś tego Novaka wyślę do domu przed finałem lub wcześniej.

[Lucas]

Nie wiedziałem gdzie dać, 60 szlemów na jednym zdjęciu

[Barty]

Kto by pomyślał, że Laver i Borg będą na zdjęciu z selfiesticka trzymanego przez Federera.

[Damian]

[DUN I LOVE]

Wygląda na to, że Fed najbardziej długowieczny (nie wiedziałem, gdzie to wrzucić).

Spoiler:

[DUN I LOVE]

Nie wiedziałem, że ponad 1,5 roku temu John złożył samokrytykę.

Spoiler:

In a move that was a little like the sun setting in the east, John McEnroe admitted he was wrong in saying Rafael Nadal was the best tennis player of all time. Roger Federer deserves that honor, the tennis great said on ESPN on Friday.

McEnroe made his grand U-turn minutes after Federer played one of the best matches of his career, a 7-5, 7-5, 6-4 annihilation of Andy Murray, in the Wimbledon semifinal. Afterward, McEnroe, needled by his brother Patrick about his longtime support of Rafa as the tennis G.O.A.T., said, “I was wrong,” something many a chair umpire wouldn’t have minded hearing about 35 years ago.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/roger-f ... k-djokovic

[Robertinho]

Pozostaje czekać na podobną iluminację pana Matsa "Djokovic z pewnością zostanie GOATem, ale Wawrinka jest faworytem" Wilandera. #Legiawybaczaaleniezapomina

[DUN I LOVE]

Mój ulubiony mem w całej historii tego rodzaju twórczości.

[Emu]

Mogłeś się bardziej postarać.

[DUN I LOVE]

Mac podał swoje Top-5: Federer, Nadal, Laver, Sampras, Djoković.

[Damian]

Wawrinka: Federer Is 'Best Player Ever'

Spoiler:

Swiss finds positives from month Down Under
Stan Wawrinka, a three-time Grand Slam champion, has moved past the stage of moral victories at big-time tournaments. But the Swiss star is not above giving due credit to his opponent.
The 31 year old lavished praise on his countryman Roger Federer after falling 7-5, 6-3, 1-6, 4-6, 6-3 in the Australian Open semi-finals on Thursday. Wawrinka called Federer “the best player ever” and said Federer “can do anything he wants on the court.”
“He's an amazing player to watch and to see on the court. He's flying on the court. He's playing amazing tennis,” Wawrinka said.
The Lausanne native was trying to reach his second Australian Open final and his fourth Grand Slam final overall. He fell to 0-14 against Federer on hard courts and 3-19 against him during their overall FedEx ATP Head2Head series. All of Wawrinka's Head2Head wins have come on clay.
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“I don't know what to say. I cannot just be happy to win two sets against Roger. I just lost a five-set match in the semi-final of the Australian Open... I'm proud of myself, of the fight I give tonight and all the tournament. I think there is a lot of positive from this tournament, from Brisbane, from the month already,” Wawrinka said. “For sure I'm really sad and disappointed with a loss like that because to be that close to have won a semi-final, it can be only sad. But at the end I know I tried everything on the court. I came from two sets down. I changed completely the momentum.”
The five-set battle, which lasted more than three hours, was Wawrinka's closest Grand Slam hard-court match against Federer. During their two other hard-court meetings at Grand Slams, Federer won both matches – 2011 Australian Open QF, 2015 US Open SF – in straight sets.
“At the end I had a great battle against Roger. He's great fighter. He's always been amazing in a Grand Slam, in a five-set match. I'm for sure sad to lose a match like that,” Wawrinka said. “But I know there is a lot of positive.”
With his semi-final finish, Wawrinka will climb to No. 3 in the Emirates ATP Rankings when the new rankings are released on Monday.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/waw ... en-2017-sf

[Mario]

Myślę, że temat można zamknąć.

[grzes430]

Myślę, że dopóki zainteresowani nie skończą karier, to rozmowy będą ciągle trwać.