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Temat zawiera porównanie osiągnięć obu graczy, kiedy byli w tym samym wieku (dostosowane do wieku Novaka), a także historię ich dotychczasowych pojedynków.

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Tytuły (12):
2018: Doha, Pekin
2017: Szanghaj, Bazylea
2016: Queen's Club, Atlanta
2014: Pekin
2013: Montpellier, Atlanta
2012: Kuala Lumpur, Szanghaj, Bazylea

Finały (17):
2018: Dubaj, Umag
2017: Sofia, Barcelona, s-Hertogenbosch', Wimbledon
2016: Genewa, s-Hertogenbosch
2013: Barcelona, Madryt, Paryż - Bercy
2012: Dubaj, Estoril, Madryt, Rzym, Nicea
2011: Los Angeles

Gra podwójna:

Tytuły (4): Wimbledon’13, Australian Open’15, Roland Garros’15, Us Open'17
Finały (3): Us Open’15, Wimbledon’16, US Open'18


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STAN NA DZIEŃ : 11.09.2011 rok
(wiek 24 lat, 3 miesiące)

Novak Djokvic vs Rafael Nadal

Turnieje/Finały 27/14 - 41/12
(TMS/Finały) 10/7 -18 /6
(TMC/Finały) 1/0 - 0/1
(GS/Finały) 3/2 - 8/2
Ranking 1 - 2
Ilość tyg jako #1: 9 - 60
Ilość wygranych sezonów (Year End #1): 0 - 1

Wyniki Rafaela pochodzą z dnia 04.09.2010 r.

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Tytuły (12):
2018: Doha, Pekin
2017: Szanghaj, Bazylea
2016: Queen's Club, Atlanta
2014: Pekin
2013: Montpellier, Atlanta
2012: Kuala Lumpur, Szanghaj, Bazylea

Finały (17):
2018: Dubaj, Umag
2017: Sofia, Barcelona, s-Hertogenbosch', Wimbledon
2016: Genewa, s-Hertogenbosch
2013: Barcelona, Madryt, Paryż - Bercy
2012: Dubaj, Estoril, Madryt, Rzym, Nicea
2011: Los Angeles

Gra podwójna:

Tytuły (4): Wimbledon’13, Australian Open’15, Roland Garros’15, Us Open'17
Finały (3): Us Open’15, Wimbledon’16, US Open'18


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Dotychczasowa historia pojedynków:

1) Ogólnie: 14-17 Nadal

2012:

Monte Carlo: 6/3, 6/1 Nadal
Australian Open: 5/7, 6/4, 6/2, 6/7, 7/5 Djokovic

2011:

Us Open: 6/2, 6/4, 6/7, 6/1 Djokovic
Wimbledon: 6-4, 6-1, 1-6, 6-3 Djokovic
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Rome: 6-4, 6-4 Djokovic
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Madrid: 7-5, 6-4 Djokovic
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Miami: 4-6, 6-3, 7-6(4) Djokovic
2011 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Indian Wells: 4-6, 6-3, 6-2 Djokovic

2010:

Barclays ATP World Tour Finals RR: 7-5, 6-2 Nadal
US Open: 6-4, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2 Nadal

2009:

Barclays ATP World Tour Finals: 7-6(5), 6-3 Djokovic
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Paris: 6-2, 6-3 Djokovic
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Cincinnati: 6-1, 6-4 Djokovic
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Madrid: 3-6, 7-6(5), 7-6(9) Nadal
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Rome: 7-6(2), 6-2 Nadal
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Monte Carlo: 6-3, 2-6, 6-1 Nadal
ESP vs. SRB WG 1st RD: 6-4, 6-4, 6-1 Nadal

2008:

Beijing Olympics: 6-4, 1-6, 6-4 Nadal
ATP Masters Series Cincinnati: 6-1, 7-5 Djokovic
Queen's Club: 7-6(6), 7-5 Nadal
Roland Garros: 6-4, 6-2, 7-6(3) Nadal
ATP Masters Series Hamburg: 7-5, 2-6, 6-2 Nadal
ATP Masters Series Indian Wells: 6-3, 6-2 Djokovic

2007:

Tennis Masters Cup China: 6-4, 6-4 Nadal
ATP Masters Series Canada: 7-5, 6-3 Djokovic
Wimbledon: 3-6, 6-1, 4-1 RET Nadal
Roland Garros: 7-5, 6-4, 6-2 Nadal
ATP Masters Series Rome: 6-2, 6-3 Nadal
ATP Masters Series Miami: 6-3, 6-4 Djokovic
ATP Masters Series Indian Wells: 6-2, 7-5 Nadal

2006:

Roland Garros: 6-4, 6-4 RET Nadal


2) W finałach: 7-6

3) W szlemach: 3-5

4) Według nawierzchni:

Hard: 11-5
Clay: 2-10
Grass: 1-2

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Tytuły (12):
2018: Doha, Pekin
2017: Szanghaj, Bazylea
2016: Queen's Club, Atlanta
2014: Pekin
2013: Montpellier, Atlanta
2012: Kuala Lumpur, Szanghaj, Bazylea

Finały (17):
2018: Dubaj, Umag
2017: Sofia, Barcelona, s-Hertogenbosch', Wimbledon
2016: Genewa, s-Hertogenbosch
2013: Barcelona, Madryt, Paryż - Bercy
2012: Dubaj, Estoril, Madryt, Rzym, Nicea
2011: Los Angeles

Gra podwójna:

Tytuły (4): Wimbledon’13, Australian Open’15, Roland Garros’15, Us Open'17
Finały (3): Us Open’15, Wimbledon’16, US Open'18


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Novak & Rafa: The Rivalry

Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic met for the 29th time in the US Open final at Flushing Meadows on Monday.

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Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic met for the 29th time in the 2011 US Open final.

It was the pair's third meeting in a Grand Slam championship final and saw Djokovic avenge the defeat he suffered a year earlier to Nadal in the rain-interrupted 2010 US Open final. Djokovic also triumphed in four sets when they met in the 2011 Wimbledon final.

This season World No. 1 Djokovic has closed the gap on Nadal's lead in their head-to-head series, beating the Spaniard in their past six meetings to narrow it to 16-13. All six of their meetings this season have been in finals; two at Grand Slam level and four at ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournaments. Nadal holds marks of 9-2 on clay and 2-1 on grass, while Djokovic leads 10-5 on hard courts.

Here is a history of the duo's 29 career meetings, beginning with their most recent encounter at Flushing Meadows on Monday, 12 September 2011.

2011 US Open Final, Grand Slam, New York, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 62 64 67(3) 61

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World No. 1 Novak Djokovic claimed his third Grand Slam title of the season and his first at the US Open when he defeated defending champion Rafael Nadal 6-2, 6-4, 6-7(3), 6-1 in a rematch of the 2010 final. With the victory, Djokovic improved to a 6-0 mark against the Spaniard in finals this season. The pair showed what was in store for the final, with their hard-hitting rallies averaging 10 strokes in the opening game. In both the first two sets Nadal led by a break of serve, and both times Djokovic came roaring back, putting Nadal under constant pressure with his retrieval skills on the baseline and his clever use of the angles, drawing the errors from the Spaniard’s racquet. Ten-time major champion Nadal showed his mettle in the third set, winning it in a tie-break after Djokovic had served for the match at 6-5. However, the Spaniard could not maintain his high level and with both men tiring in the intense contest, it was Nadal whose resistance broke down first and Djokovic broke serve twice to claim victory in four hours and nine minutes. The 24 year old became the sixth man in the Open Era to win three major titles in the same season.

2011 Wimbledon Final, Grand Slam, London, grass, Djokovic d. Nadal 64 61 16 63

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The current World No. 1 Rafael Nadal, the 2008 and 2010 titlist, met the soon-to-be No. 1 Novak Djokovic in the Wimbledon final. For two sets, Djokovic was superb hitting 22 winners past Nadal, who was unable to hit top form in lengthy baseline rallies. But Nadal hasn't won 20 straight matches at the All England Club for nothing. The top seed battled back to win the third set to raise hopes of a first two-sets-to-love comeback in a Wimbledon final since 1927, when Henri Cochet defeated Bill Tilden. Both players exchanged breaks of serve at the start of the fourth set, before Djokovic regained control to complete a 6-4, 6-1, 1-6, 6-3 victory in two hours and 28 minutes of play to lift his third Grand Slam championship title. It capped a dream fortnight for the Serbian, who will become No. 1 in the South African Airways 2011 ATP Rankings on 4 July.

2011 Internazionali BNL d'Italia Final, ATP World Tour Masters 1000, Rome, clay, Djokovic d. Nadal 64 64


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One day after a thrilling semi-final win over Andy Murray, Novak Djokovic defeated defending champion Rafael Nadal for a second consecutive Sunday in a clay-court ATP World Tour Masters 1000 final. The Serbian broke the World No. 1 four times - including the final games of the first and second sets - to become just the second player (Davydenko) to record four straight victories against the Spaniard. He also became the first player to win four Masters 1000 titles in one season since Nadal and Roger Federer claimed four apiece in 2005. On Saturday evening, Djokovic had come within two points of defeat before rallying to defeat Murray in a third-set tie-break. His streak of 39 successive tour-level victories following the Rome final was the sixth-longest winning streak in the Open Era. One day after a thrilling semi-final win over Andy Murray, Novak Djokovic defeated defending champion Rafael Nadal for a second consecutive Sunday in a clay-court ATP World Tour Masters 1000 final. The Serbian broke the World No. 1 four times - including the final games of the first and second sets - to become just the second player (Davydenko) to record four straight victories against the Spaniard. He also became the first player to win four Masters 1000 titles in one season since Nadal and Roger Federer claimed four apiece in 2005. On Saturday evening, Djokovic had come within two points of defeat before rallying to defeat Murray in a third-set tie-break. His streak of 39 successive tour-level victories following the Rome final was the sixth-longest winning streak in the Open Era.

2011 Mutua Madrid Open Final, ATP World Tour Masters 1000, Madrid, clay, Djokovic d. Nadal 75 64

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Novak Djokovic notched his 34th consecutive victory as he brought to an end Rafael Nadal’s 37-match unbeaten run on clay by beating the defending champion 7-5, 6-4 in the final of the Mutua Madrid Open. Despite never having beaten Nadal on clay in nine previous attempts, Djokovic raced out to a 4-0 lead in the Masters 1000 final. Nadal fought back and broke the Serbian to bring himself back level in the ninth game, but Djokovic claimed the opening set three games later. After recovering a service break early in the second set, Djokovic broke Nadal again in the final game to seal victory in two hours and 17 minutes. “Under the circumstances, I’ve played probably the best match of my life on clay against the World No. 1 and the player to beat on this surface,” declared Djokovic.

2011 Sony Ericsson Open Final, ATP World Tour Masters 1000, Miami, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 46 63 76(4)

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In one of the most electrifying men’s singles finals in Sony Ericsson Open history, Novak Djokovic defeated World No. 1 Rafael Nadal for the second consecutive ATP World Tour Masters 1000 event after winning at Indian Wells two weeks earlier, upending the Spaniard 4-6, 6-3, 7-6(4) to win his second Miami title. With the win, he improved to 24-0 on the season and increased his overall streak to 26 wins in a row, dating back to December’s Davis Cup Final. Djokovic became the first player since Roger Federer in 2006 to win both Indian Wells and Miami in the same year, a feat that’s been achieved eight times on the men’s side.

2011 BNP Paribas Open Final, ATP World Tour Masters 1000, Indian Wells, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 46 63 62

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Novak Djokovic just cannot stop winning. The Serb extended his unbeaten run to 20 matches as he came from a set down to defeat World No. 1 Rafael Nadal 4-6, 6-3, 6-2 in a gripping finale. The 23-year-old Djokovic has not lost a match since falling to Roger Federer in the semi-finals of the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals last November. “I don't think anybody is unbeatable. I do have the best period of my life on the tennis court, but nobody is invincible,” he said. “Still you are just trying to play your best in each match you're playing.” Victory marked Djokovic’s 21st tour-level title and his sixth ATP World Tour Masters 1000 crown. A day earlier, in a semi-final clash that also had the No. 2 South African Airways 2011 ATP Ranking on the line, Djokovic had defeated Federer, making him the third player to beat Nadal and Federer in the same tournament on two occasions, joining Nikolay Davydenko and David Nalbandian. He first defeated the duo in back-to-back matches at the 2007 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 event in Montreal.

2010 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals Round Robin, year-end ATP Championships, London, indoor hard, Nadal d. Djokovic 75 62

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In a eagerly anticipated clash, Nadal overcame Djokovic for the second time in succession. The first set was closely fought, but Djokovic required treatment for an eye problem after the seventh game of the first set that spelled the end of his challenge in front of a 17,000-strong crowd. Just as in his opening group match against Andy Roddick, Nadal took time to find his rhythm but secured two breaks of serve to Djokovic's one break in the opening set. Djokovic, unable to hit top form in the second set, explained afterwards, "Playing with one eye, especially against Nadal, is not enough. It's just incredible that this happened to me because it never happened in my life. I was feeling great. But my right eye got irritated, and from 5-5 I could not play. I could not see a ball, especially the return." The match lasted one hour and 52 minutes.

2010 US Open Final, Grand Slam, New York City, hard, Nadal d. Djokovic 6-4, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2

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Nadal reversed a three-match losing streak against Djokovic, defeating the Serbian 6-4, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2 to win his first US Open title and become the seventh man to complete the career Grand Slam. Though rain delayed their meeting by a day, Nadal made a confident start to the championship match Monday as he broke Djokovic. Though the Serbian drew level at 2-2, Nadal regained the lead as he converted on his sixth break point opportunity of the next game. The pair was locked at 4-4, 30/30, in the second set when rain suspended play for one hour and 57 minutes. When they returned, Djokovic broke the Spaniard for a third time to force a set off of Nadal for the first time during the 2010 US Open. Djokovic was unable to maintain the momentum, however, with Nadal continually putting pressure on his serve. The top seed created 16 break point chances through the final two sets and converted on three of them (6 for 26 during the match). He claimed the victory as his opponent’s return sailed wide on championship point after three hours and 43 minutes.

2009 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals Round Robin, year-end ATP Championships, London, indoor hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 76(5) 63

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Djokovic denied Nadal his 400th tour-level match win (399-91 mark) by defeating the Spaniard 7-6(5), 6-3, but was unable to book a spot in the semi-finals after Nikolay Davydenko beat Robin Soderling in the final round-robin match of the elite eight-man tournament. The match got off to a scrappy start with three successive service breaks before Djokovic was able to carve out a 3-1 lead, saving a break point in the process. Nadal levelled in the eighth game and with the crowd urging him on he was able to force a tie-break. It was Djokovic who produced the better tennis in the first part of the tie-break, moving Nadal around with a drop shot-lob combination to earn a 6-2 lead. A brief lapse in concentration from the Serbian saw Nadal fight back to 6-5, but Djokovic was able to sneak over the line as a forehand error from Nadal – one of 35 unforced errors he committed in the match – handed him a one-set lead. Nadal required a medical timeout to receive treatment on his lower back early in the second set and Djokovic immediately pounced in the fourth game, taking advantage of errors from Nadal to lead 3-1. Djokovic went on to wrap up victory in one hour and 57 minutes.

2009 BNP Paribas Masters Semi-finals, ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Paris, indoor hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 62 63

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In-form Djokovic, a winner at the Davidoff Swiss Indoors Basel just six days previous, cruised into the final with a 6-2, 6-3 win over Nadal in 77 minutes. Djokovic broke serve to love in the sixth and eighth games of an entertaining 34-minute first set. Nadal won eight of 18 service points, including three aces, and 12 points overall. Djokovic opened up a 3-0 lead in the second set, courtesy of another service break to love in the second game. At 4-2, Djokovic recovered from 15/30 by winning three points in a row. Nadal kept fighting, but never looked likely to reach his first indoor final since February at the ABN AMRO World Tennis Tournament in Rotterdam. "There's not much to say about today's performance, except it was perfect," said Djokovic, who hit 31 winners. "[It was] exactly the way I wanted it. I have done, tactically-wise, everything that I imagined to do and planned to do before the match. I was very aggressive. [I] took the early control of the match over my opponent, and it paid off. I was hitting winners from all over the court and really trying to keep that momentum going throughout the whole match. I didn't give him many chances to come back into the match."

2009 Western & Southern Financial Group Masters Semi-finals, ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Cincinnati, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 61 64

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Djokovic snapped a five-match losing streak against Nadal, repeating his 2008 semi-final win over the Spaniard in Cincinnati to charge into the final for the second consecutive year. He raced away with the first set in 29 minutes and then closed out the 6-1, 6-4 win in 91 minutes after facing just one break point in the match. Nadal, playing just his second tournament back since Roland Garros as he battled knee tendinitis, fought valiantly in the second set to make the match a contest. He staved off three break points in the opening game of the second set, forced Djokovic to save a break point at 4-3 and then also took Djokovic to deuce in the final game of the match before his young rival served out just his fifth win in 19 meetings with Nadal. "Obviously I have to be very pleased with the way I played," said Djokovic, who won 75 per cent of first-serves points. "This has been one of the best matches of the season so far. I was trying to be from the first point in the control of the match, be very aggressive, and take the chances on each shot or ball that I had. That's what I did."

2009 Mutua Madrilena Madrid Open Semi-finals, ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Madrid, clay, Nadal d. Djokovic 36 76(5) 76(9)

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For the third time in five weeks the pair met. It was dramatic theatre and arguably their best match to date. Nadal saved three match points in a dramatic final-set tie-break to beat Djokovic 3-6, 7-6(5), 7-6(9) in four hours and two minutes for a spot in the final. It is believed to be the longest best-of-three sets match on the ATP World Tour in the Open Era (since 1968). It was the first time Nadal had played a third set tie-break on clay since 11 July 2003, when he lost to Nicolas Lapentti at Bastad, Sweden. Djokovic had the better of the opening exchanges and led Nadal 3-0 – courtesy of service break in the second game. The third seed managed to maintain his advantage, winning 20 of 26 service points to take the first set in 51 minutes. Djokovic’s fluency continued in the second set, but he was left to rue missed opportunities for service breaks in the third and ninth games. Nadal managed to fight off another break point in an 11-minute game for a 6-5 lead and went on to create his first break point opportunity, a set point, in the next game. Nadal maintained his record of never losing a tie-break against Djokovic to level the score line. Djokovic regained his composure to open up a 3-1 lead, after breaking Nadal in the fourth game. But Nadal responded with an immediate service break of his own. In the third-set tie-break Djokovic created his first match point when he hit a forehand winner for a 6-5 lead, but he could not capitalise on the chance as Nadal hit a forehand winner down the line from a long baseline rally. A second match point went begging on a Nadal second serve at 7-6, when Nadal wrong-footed Djokovic with a series of forehands before hitting the winning forehand stroke on approach to the net. Nadal’s first match point came and went at 8-7. Djokovic hit a nerveless forehand winner, having hit a second serve to Nadal’s forehand, for his third match point at 9-8 after four hours of play. Nadal gritted his teeth once again, and urged on by his compatriots was able to recover to 10-9 courtesy of a Djokovic forehand in the net and a forehand winner down the line. Nadal seized control of his second match point by forcing Djokovic out wide to lunge for a forehand, which landed in the net.

2009 Internazionali BNL d'Italia Final, ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Rome, clay, Nadal d. Djokovic 76(2) 62

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Two weeks on from their keenly contested match in the final of the Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters, Nadal and Djokovic met in an ATP World Tour final for the fourth time at the Internazionali BNL d'Italia in Rome. Nadal served for the first set twice, but each time was thwarted by a Djokovic determined to defend his title at the Foro Italico. The Spaniard raised his level in the first-set tie-break though before breaking twice in the second set to secure his 30th consecutive clay-court victory and a record fourth Internazionali BNL d'Italia title after two hours and three minutes of play. Nadal’s victory had added significance for Djokovic, who will surrender his No. 3 South African Airways 2009 ATP Ranking to current No. 4 Andy Murray when the 2008 Rome points drop on 11 May.

2009 Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters Final, ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Monte-Carlo, clay, Nadal d. Djokovic 63 26 61

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In their third meeting in an ATP World Tour final, Nadal prevailed over Djokovic 6-3, 2-6, 6-1 to clinch his fifth straight title at the Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters. Nadal reeled off five straight games to take the opening set in 63 minutes, but dropped his first set in Monte-Carlo since the 2006 final after Djokovic went up two early breaks in the following set. In a key first game of the third set, Nadal recovered from a 0-30 deficit and saved three break points – completing a 16-minute opening game with a forehand crosscourt winner – and then claimed a 2-0 lead in the next game when a Djokovic forehand hit the net tape and landed wide. Djokovic reclaimed a break of serve to make it 2-1, but Nadal flexed his muscles and won four straight games – dropping just three points – to wrap up victory in two hours and 44 minutes.

2009 Davis Cup World Group First Round, Spain vs Serbia, Fourth Rubber, Nadal d. Djokovic 64 64 61

In their first meeting in Davis Cup competition, the Spaniard prevailed in straight sets in Benidorm to clinch the first round victory for the defending Davis Cup champions. Nadal improved to 12-1 lifetime in Davis Cup singles play, including a 10-0 mark on clay. The Spaniard has won 15 of 16 sets on clay against the Serb.

2008 Olympic Games Beijing Semi-finals, hard, Nadal d. Djokovic 64 16 64

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Three days before Rafael Nadal became the 24th player to rank No. 1 in the history of the South African Airways ATP Rankings, the Spaniard sealed his 69th win of the year after defeating Novak Djokovic 6-4, 1-6, 6-4 in two hours and 10 minutes at the Olympic Green Tennis Center. The match finished at 12:22 a.m. local time. Djokovic saved one match point on serve at 30/40, 4-5 in the deciding set with a powerful forehand. But Nadal was not to be denied, as a couple of minutes later Djokovic missed a smash at the net on Nadal's second match point. Nadal hit 13 winners and committed 46 unforced errors in total, compared to 18 winners and 52 unforced errors for Djokovic. Nadal went on to clinch the gold medal over Fernando Gonzalez, while Djokovic won the bronze medal over James Blake.

2008 Western & Southern Financial Group Masters Semi-finals, ATP Masters Series Cincinnati, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 61 75

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Novak Djokovic ended Rafael Nadal's 32-match winning streak with a 6-1, 7-5 semifinal victory in one hour and 25 minutes. The loss meant Nadal would officially become the No. 1 for the first time in the South African Airways ATP Rankings on August 18. Djokovic jumped out to a 5-0 lead in the opening set before closing it out in 26 minutes. The Serbian hit 11 winners to Nadal's two and won 16 of 20 points on his own serve in the first set. In the second set, Nadal's only break point came in the sixth game but Djokovic saved it. He broke Nadal in the 11th game at 15/40 and then served out the match, hitting a forehand volley winner on match point. It was Nadal's first loss in nearly three months since he fell to countryman Juan Carlos Ferrero in the openin2008

The Artois Championships Final, ATP International Series, Queen's Club London, grass, Nadal d. Djokovic 76(6) 75

In front of a packed Centre Court crowd at The Queen’s Club in west London, four-time Roland Garros champion Rafael Nadal beat Novak Djokovic 7-6(6), 7-5 in a thrilling final of the highest quality, a fitting way to celebrate 30 years of the event. Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Gloucester presented the Spaniard with his fifth trophy of the season and his third in succession following wins in Hamburg and Roland Garros. With the win, Nadal became the first reigning French Open champion to win at The Queen’s Club since Ilie Nastase in 1973 and the first Spaniard to win here since Andres Gimeno in 1960. He was also the first Spaniard to win a grass court title since Gimeno won in Eastbourne in 1972.

2008 Roland Garros Semi-finals, Grand Slam, Paris, clay, Nadal d. Djokovic 64 62 76(3)

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Three-time defending champion Rafael Nadal tightened his grip on the No. 2 spot in the South African Airways ATP Rankings by extending his Roland Garros record to 27-0 with a 6-4, 6-2, 7-6(3) win over No. 3-ranked Novak Djokovic in two hours and 49 minutes. Nadal became the first man since Ivan Lendl from 1984-1987 to reach four consecutive finals, and just the third man in the Open Era to do so. Djokovic was unable to generate any break points on Nadal’s serve throughout the first set and, with his attacking play nullified by great defense from Nadal, he went on to lose the first set 6-4 after 57 minutes. The Spaniard closed out the set 6-2 with a forehand winner after 91 minutes, and put the match out of Djokovic’s reach by going up a double break in the third set. Djokovic fought back and had a chance to win his first set against the Spaniard at Roland Garros when he earned a set point after an effective return in the 12th game. However, Nadal denied him and went on to take the match on the tie-break.

Nadal2008 Masters Series Hamburg presented by EON Hanse Semi-finals, ATP Masters Series Hamburg, clay, Nadal d. Djokovic 75 26 62

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Rafael Nadal came out on top in the battle for the No. 2 position in the South African Airways ATP Rankings with a 7-5, 2-6, 6-3 victory over Novak Djokovic in a titanic battle over three hours and three minutes. It was the greatest match of their rivalry to date. In a first set featuring five breaks of serve under the roof on Center Court, Djokovic began in blistering form, breaking Nadal early to lead 3-0. The pressure began to tell on Djokovic, and Nadal broke back to lead 5-4. However, with Nadal serving for the set, Djokovic relaxed, went for his shots and it paid off as he leveled for 5-5. With the atmosphere rising, 2007 finalist Nadal found more outstanding tennis and a forehand pass broke Djokovic’s serve again and gave Nadal the 6-5 lead. This time Nadal did not falter and he served it out after 72 minutes. Both men continued to produce their finest tennis for much of the second set, before Djokovic was able to edge out a break of serve to lead 3-2 with some deep, aggressive hitting bullying Nadal into errors. With Nadal serving at 2-5, 15-30, a reflex volley from Djokovic set up two set points and the pressure told on Nadal as he put a forehand wide for Djokovic to level the match. Nadal immediately earned a break of serve in the third set. After failing to convert break back chances, Djokovic’s resistance began to crumble.

2008 Pacific Life Open Semi-finals, ATP Masters Series Indian Wells, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 63 62

In a semifinal full of long, spectacular rallies, Novak Djokovic struck eight aces and 20 winners to 11 for defending champion Rafael Nadal in a 6-3, 6-2 win in one hour and 28 minutes. Nadal, who struggled on serve throughout the match, secured an early break of serve but Djokovic fought back to level for 2-2 and broke again for 5-3 with a net cord winner. Djokovic won the final four games. "I had very tough matches in the rounds before, very tight matches," Nadal said. "You have to be 100%. [Djokovic] played, for sure, less hours on the court than me, easier matches."

2007 Tennis Masters Cup Shanghai Round Robin, year-end ATP Championships, Shanghai, hard, Nadal d. Djokovic 64 64

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Rafael Nadal needed to beat Novak Djokovic in straight sets in order to secure a semifinal berth, and was in combative mood from the start. "I play very, very good match – the best match here, and one of the best matches of the indoor season," said Nadal, after the 6-4, 6-4 win in one hour and 44 minutes. "I play very, very complete match." Unable to clinch a semifinal berth, Djokovic tried throughout – hitting nine aces – but was eventually outclassed.

2007 Rogers Cup Semi-finals, ATP Masters Series Montreal, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 75 63

Novak Djokovic enjoyed his career-best tournament to date by becoming the first player since Boris Becker at Stockholm in 1994 to defeat the Top 3 players in the ATP Rankings at the same tournament. Having knocked out No. 3-ranked Andy Roddick in the quarterfinals, the Serbian overcame No. 2 and 2005 Montreal champion Rafael Nadal 7-5, 6-3 in one hour and 50 minutes. Djokovic saved all eight break point he faced. In his third straight ATP Masters Series final in North America, Djokovic defeated World No. 1 Roger Federer.

2007 Wimbledon Semi-finals, Grand Slam, London, grass, Nadal d. Djokovic 36 61 41 ret. (left toe)

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Rafael Nadal reached his fifth career Grand Slam final after fourth seed Novak Djokovic retired due to severe blisters on his left toe. Nadal was leading 3-6, 6-1, 4-1 with one hour and 41 minutes on the clock. Djokovic did not look fully fit, after two epic victories over Lleyton Hewitt in the fourth round and Marcos Baghdatis in the quarterfinals. Nadal began the match sluggishly dropping his opening service game to hand his opponent a 2-0 lead, which Djokovic capitalised on with the first set in 37 minutes. World No. 5 Djokovic dropped his serve twice in the second and sixth games of the second set, which Nadal clinched in 35 minutes. The trainer was then called at one set apiece to bandage a blister on the little toe of Djokovic’s left foot. The Serbian attempted to play on but, after being broken in the third and fifth games of the set, decided to call a halt at his fifth career grass-court event.

2007 Roland Garros Semi-finals, Grand Slam, Paris, clay, Nadal d. Djokovic 75 64 62

Both started the semifinal as the only ATP players to have broken the 40-win plateau on the
season. Novak Djokovic, a first-time Grand Slam semifinalist, challenged Rafael Nadal in the 66-minute first set as he came from down two breaks to get back on serve at five games all. But Nadal promptly closed the set as he won the next two games. Djokovic had an opportunity to take the 2-0 lead in the next set, but Nadal saved three break points and never looked back. He converted on three of his remaining four break chances in the match to cement the 7-5, 6-4, 6-2 win in two hours and 28 minutes. The Spaniard went on to become the second player in Roland Garros history (since 1925) to win three consecutive titles in Paris.

2007 Internazionali BNL d'Italia Quarter-finals, ATP Masters Series Rome, hard, Nadal d. Djokovic 62 63

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Back on his beloved clay, two-time defending champion Rafael Nadal produced a devastating display to beat Novak Djokovic 6-2, 6-3 in one hour and 41 minutes. "I'm playing at my best level for sure," Nadal said after extending his Open Era record winning streak to 77 matches. "It was a very nice match. We were playing at 100 percent every point. Djokovic is very, very good player. He didn't play a bad match today. He served very well on the break points - unbelievable. Every time he beat me with the serve. But finally I played consistently, and that's decisive."

2007 Sony Ericsson Open Quarter-finals, ATP Masters Series Miami, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 63 64

"I have to say that this is the biggest, and probably the most important victory in my career, and he's the best player I ever won against," said Novak Djokovic, after avenging his Pacific Life Open final defeat with a 6-3, 6-4 victory over Rafael Nadal in the Miami quarterfinals. "Coming from Indian Wells finals, I learned a lot of things... Today I was really motivated. I didn't have anything to lose. I'm making some unbelievable results in the last couple of months. I'm in great shape, feeling really confident on the court." Djokovic, who saved three break points in the final game to record his second Top 10 win of the year – after beating Tommy Robredo in the Rotterdam quarterfinals in February – rose to a career-high No. 7.

2007 Pacific Life Open Final, ATP Masters Series Indian Wells, hard, Nadal d. Djokovic 62 75

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Rafael returned to top form by capturing his first title since lifting his second Roland Garros crown in June 2006. The 20-year-old Spaniard won the first nine points and 16 of the first 18 points against Novak Djokovic, who lost his serve three times. "This is one of the best wins for me," said Nadal, who won 6-2, 7-5 in one hour and 34 minutes. "It is a strange feeling to come here and win without losing a set. I won against a great player." As a result Djokovic rose three spots to No. 10 in the South African Airways ATP Rankings.

2006 Roland Garros Quarter-finals, Grand Slam, Paris, clay, Nadal d. Djokovic 64 64 ret. (thigh, back)

Defending champion Rafael Nadal struggled with his serve, but Novak Djokovic was never 100 per cent fit and attempted to keep the points short throughout his maiden Grand Slam quarterfinal. Nadal, who led Djokovic 6-4, 6-4, notched his 58th consecutive clay-court victory when the World No. 63 retired with a back and thigh injury after one hour and 54 minutes. Nadal extended his perfect Roland Garros record to 12-0 and stood two wins away from a century of career wins (98-12) on crushed brick.


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Nie widzę szansy, aby Djoko mógł uszczypnąć Nadala w większości statystyk opisujących dorobek gracza, ale z całą pewnością tegoroczne osiągnięcia Serba wpisały go mocnym akcentem do historii dyscypliny.

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Pamiętam, jak przed przenosinami forum toczona było dyskusja na temat meczów Nadala z Djokoviciem. Podzielę się moim zdaniem w tej kwestii.

Otóż wydaje mi się, że Djoković specjalnej taktyki na Nadala nie ma, po prostu wytrzymuje wymiany i gra częściej winnery, Rafa nie tyle gra z nim słabo, co oczekuje, że w końcu zrobi błąd lub zagra krócej, nie dzieje się tak, więc traci rezon i albo przegrywa wymiany, albo stara się grać w linie, a ponieważ nie jest urodzonym shotmakerem (raczej rozprowadza po korcie i dopiero wtedy przyciska jakimś mocniejszym uderzeniem), to często pudłuje (np. piłka na pierwszego seta w finale Wimbledonu), poza RG i może Rzymem grał optymalnie, trafił tylko na jeszcze lepszego defensora, no i co tu ukrywać, wszechstronniejszego tenisistę w ataku, który w dodatku pewnie operuje oburęcznym backhandem, więc liczba punktów Hiszpana zyskanych po źle zagranych backhandach przeciwników po jego forehandowym topspinie zostaje drastycznie zmniejszona, właściwie dopóki Novak biega do wszystkiego to Nadal nie ma mu czym zagrozić poza serwisem, bo te topspiny są zupełnie niegroźne dla Serba.


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Novak Djoković w finale Us Open 2011 po raz szósty z rzędu pokonał Rafaela Nadala, wygrywając tym samym 13 pojedynek w karierze przeciwko Hiszpanowi. Serb poprawił także swoją statystykę przeciwko Nadalowi w meczach finałowych, wielkoszlemowych i rozgrywkach na nawierzchni hard.

Johnathan, zgadzam się z tobą w 100%. Kiedy Novak nie miał takiej wytrzymałości jaką ma dzisiaj, to Nadala nikt nie mógł powstrzymać. Serb jest pierwszym zawodnikiem w turze, który wytrzymuje tempo jakie nadaje Nadal (czasem dokonywał tego Roger, lecz nie na taką skalę), biega do każdej piłki i przebija ją na drugą stronę. Djokovic przerósł Rafę pod względem wytrzymałościowym i to właśnie dlatego nie ma teraz sobie równych. W obecnych czasach główną rolę gra przygotowanie fizyczne, więc jeśli Djoko utrzyma taką formę to przez długi czas nikt może nie być w stanie z nim konkurować (tym bardziej, że Serb też potrafi grać w piękny, techniczny sposób, lecz rzadko z niego korzysta).

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Rywalizacja Novaka i Rafy to obecnie historia 29 spotkań. Jest to tym samym 6 rywalizacja Ery Open, biorąc pod uwagę ilość rozegranych między sobą spotkań:

1. Ivan Lendl vs John McEnroe - 36 - Lendl 21-15
2. Jimmy Connors vs Ivan Lendl - 35 - Lendl 22-13
3. Boris Becker vs Stefan Edberg - 35 - Becker 25-10
4. Andre Agassi vs Pete Sampras - 34 - Sampras 20-14
5. Jimmy Connors vs John McEnroe - 34 McEnroe 20-14
6. Novak Djokovic vs Rafael Nadal - 29 Nadal 16-13.

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Do RG spokojnie mogą wejść na szczyt :)

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World No. 1 Novak Djokovic faces a supremely fast turnaround if he is to feature from the start in Serbia’s bid to reach the Davis Cup final. Fresh from winning the US Open title on Monday, the 24 year old embarked on a whirlwind media tour in New York on Tuesday and was due to arrive back in his capital city of Belgrade on Wednesday.

Defending Davis Cup champion Serbia faces Argentina in the World Group semi-finals, with the tie set to begin on Friday. Djokovic is joined on the home team by US Open quarter-finalist Janko Tipsarevic, Viktor Troicki and Nenad Zimonjic, while Juan Martin del Potro and David Nalbandian spearhead the Argentine campaign.

In answer to whether Djokovic may be rested in Friday’s singles rubbers, Serbian Davis Cup captain Bogdan Obradovic said, "It is too early for such a decision. We will see when he arrives how he feels. We will sit and talk, all of us. There are two days more of practising. We are very eager to see him, to join us, as always after big wins. Novak always brings lot of positive energy."

Djokovic found himself in a similar position a year ago, travelling to Belgrade from New York after contesting a Monday final at the US Open, and was subsequently rested on the first day’s play against the Czech Republic in the semi-finals. That tie saw Serbia come back from two-rubbers-to-one down to clinch a 3-2 victory, with Djokovic winning the fourth singles rubber against Tomas Berdych.

Beaten US Open finalist Rafael Nadal is also pulling out all the stops to represent Spain in the other semi-final against France. The Mallorcan arrived in Cordoba late on Tuesday night, having travelled on a private jet with the president of the Spanish Tennis Federation, José Luis Escañuela. He faces not only the difficulties of weariness and jetlag, but also has the added challenge of switching back to clay after weeks pounding the North American hard courts, with only two days to practise.

"I am tired for sure," admitted Nadal. "It’s only Wednesday, I played a very long match on Monday. I arrived late yesterday and for sure it is a challenge for me to be here. I am trying for my country, but it’s tough.

"I am happy with what happened in New York," continued the Spaniard. "I fought a lot, I was playing in the right way, but Djokovic did fantastic. For me it’s not a mental problem (playing Davis Cup), it’s more of a physical problem. If we talk about the mental part, I am ready to play."


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Djokovic2011 US Open Final, Grand Slam, New York, hard, Djokovic d. Nadal 62 64 67(3) 61

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World No. 1 Novak Djokovic claimed his third Grand Slam title of the season and his first at the US Open when he defeated defending champion Rafael Nadal 6-2, 6-4, 6-7(3), 6-1 in a rematch of the 2010 final. With the victory, Djokovic improved to a 6-0 mark against the Spaniard in finals this season. The pair showed what was in store for the final, with their hard-hitting rallies averaging 10 strokes in the opening game. In both the first two sets Nadal led by a break of serve, and both times Djokovic came roaring back, putting Nadal under constant pressure with his retrieval skills on the baseline and his clever use of the angles, drawing the errors from the Spaniard’s racquet. Ten-time major champion Nadal showed his mettle in the third set, winning it in a tie-break after Djokovic had served for the match at 6-5. However, the Spaniard could not maintain his high level and with both men tiring in the intense contest, it was Nadal whose resistance broke down first and Djokovic broke serve twice to claim victory in four hours and nine minutes. The 24 year old became the sixth man in the Open Era to win three major titles in the same season.


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Cóż, Nadal w kwiecie wieku i u szczytu formy jest rozbijany przez Djokovicia, który w zasadzie prezentuje to samo co on, tylko przerasta go jakością i stylem.

Nadal zbudował swoją pozycję, dlatego że trafił akurat na Federera, któremu ten styl zupełnie nie leżał, jednak kwestią czasu było pojawienie się kogoś na kim to przebijanie nie będzie robić wrażenia i wtedy wyjdzie szydło z worka. Przyszedł Djoković, który wytrzymuje te mordercze wymiany i szybko okazało się, że Rafie brakuje argumentów. "Król" nagle staje się nagi i nie umie niczego zmienić, bo innymi opcjami taktyczno-technicznymi nie dysponuje. Wszystkie tegoroczne mecze z Novakiem wyglądały podobnie - Hiszpan rzucał na szalę wszystko co ma, próbował wszystkich markowych zagrań, ale niemal za każdym razem odbijał się jak od ściany, bo Joker bezceremonialnie ogrywał go jego własną bronią - defensywą. W finale US Open poza trzecim setem też był przecież bezradny. I nie sądzę, aby mógł już w swoim tenisie coś zmodyfikować. Według mnie musi po prostu czekać, aż Serbowi powinie się noga albo wypali się fizycznie.


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johnathan pisze:
Cóż, Nadal w kwiecie wieku i u szczytu formy[...]
hahaha
To sadzenie balonów z BH przez cały sezon jest tego koronnym przykładem...

Nadala stać na ZNACZNIE lepszą grę, szczególnie z prawej strony i serwisowo. A że w tym roku nie jest w stanie tego zrobić, to zbiera w 4 litery. Nic specjalnego.

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Bardzo trudno jednoznacznie powiedzieć, czy ktoś gra gorzej, czy nie, ale ja jestem zdania, że to Djoković znacząco podwyższył loty niż Nadal je obniżył. Przecież gdyby nie ta eksplozja formy Novaka, Rafa poza AO wygrałby wszystkie najważniejsze turnieje. Wtedy też wyłapałbyś tę rzekomą baloniadę z backhandu lub jakieś minimalne spóźnienia do piłek w porównaniu z zeszłym sezonem?

Djoković opracował strategię wybitnie na rozpracowanie Nadala, jest jego szybszą, wytrzymalszą i dokładniejszą wersją, po prostu góruje nad nim w każdym elemencie. Wiem, że ciężko pogodzić Ci się z tym, że Twojemu tenisowemu idolowi wystrzelił taki konkurent i to w momencie wydawało się niezagrożonej dominacji, ale wyniki i przebieg ich tegorocznych meczów mówią same za siebie i nic tego nie zmieni.


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johnathan pisze:
Bardzo trudno jednoznacznie powiedzieć, czy ktoś gra gorzej, czy nie, ale ja jestem zdania, że to Djoković znacząco podwyższył loty niż Nadal je obniżył.
Owszem, to prawda. Zdecydowanie większa to zasługa Djokovicia, a nie Nadala. Co nie zmienia faktu, że Nadal loty w tym sezonie obniżył. Ja to szacuję na około 70% możliwości z zeszłego roku. Jak widać na większość wystarcza, ale na Djoka w tej dyspozycji nie.
johnathan pisze:
Wtedy też wyłapałbyś tę rzekomą baloniadę z backhandu lub jakieś minimalne spóźnienia do piłek w porównaniu z zeszłym sezonem?
Tak.
johnathan pisze:
Wiem, że ciężko pogodzić Ci się z tym, że Twojemu tenisowemu idolowi wystrzelił taki konkurent i to w momencie wydawało się niezagrożonej dominacji, ale wyniki i przebieg ich tegorocznych meczów mówi sam za siebie i nic tego nie zmieni.
Ja się z tym pogodziłem już tak mniej więcej po finale w Madrycie ;)
Co więcej, ja się na żadną dominację nie nastawiałem. Już w 2008 roku zapowiadało się na ogólnoświatową demolkę, a zderzenie z rzeczywistością przyszło chyba szybciej, niż się ktokolwiek spodziewał.

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2017: WTF (W), Sztokholm (W), Hamburg (W), Stuttgart (W), Acapulco (W);
2016: WTF (F), Bazylea (F), Cincinnati (W), Roland Garros (F), Marsylia (W), Doha (W);
2015: WTF (W), Bazylea (W), Winston-Salem (W), Hamburg (W), Wimbledon (F), Stuttgart (W), Monte Carlo (F), Indian Wells (F);
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PostZamieszczono: 23 wrz 2011, 23:32 
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Nadala stać na ZNACZNIE lepszą grę, szczególnie z prawej strony i serwisowo.


Otwarte pytanie jest takie, czy ta znacznie lepsza gra Nadala będzie skutecznym antidotum na Nole? Pierwsze 5 porażek, o dziwo, nie dało jednoznacznej odpowiedzi. Dopiero finał USO uświadomił nam pewne sprawy, gdzie walczący jak lew Hiszpan przegrał dość wyraźnie. Wydarzenia na korcie są dla Rafy dość brutalne i często nakazują przychylenie się do zdania Johnathana - Nadal przy regularnym Djokoviciu był długimi momentami całkowicie bezradny, czym w wielu sekwencjach pojedynku Serb zasadniczo obnażył niedoskonałości tenisa Hiszpana. Zobaczymy, jak to się rozwinie, lider rankingu nie będzie przecież takiej formy trzymał wiecznie.

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2016 (1) Sankt Petersburg
2015 (1) Rotterdam
2013 (3) Montreal M1000, Rzym M1000, Dubaj
2012 (1) Toronto M1000
2011 (4) Waszyngton, Belgrad, Miami M1000, San Jose
2010 (2) Wiedeń, Rotterdam
2009 (2) Szanghaj M1000, Eastbourne
2008 (2) US Open, Estoril


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2018 (3) Sankt Petersburg, Stuttgart, Marsylia
2017 (2) Sztokholm, Indian Wells M1000
2016 (2) Newport, Rotterdam
2015 (1) Halle
2014 (1) Tokio
2013 (2) Basel, Kuala Lumpur
2011 (3) WTF, Cincinnati M1000, Rzym M1000
2010 (2) Basel, Marsylia
2009 (4) WTF, Stuttgart, Wimbledon, Madryt M1000
2008 (1) WTF


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PostZamieszczono: 24 wrz 2011, 1:26 
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Walczyć jak lew to sobie może, ale dwóch drugich serwisów i balona z BH to nie ukryje ;)
Wiadomo, że musiałaby zajść sekwencja sprzyjających zdarzeń, żeby pokonać Djokovicia w tej dyspozycji. I o ile uważam, że wymienione przeze mnie czynniki umożliwiłyby wygraną (już w Miami było blisko, a tam było daleko do ideału), o tyle nie łudzę się, że do tego dojdzie w tym sezonie. Jak w końcu Rafa wygra (w to akurat wierzę :D), to pewnie przez słabszy dzień Serba, a nie swoją genialną grę.

Nie uważam, żeby na przykład podczas półfinału w Madrycie (2009) Djoković grał gorzej niż teraz, a jednak udało się to spotkanie wygrać (konsekwencje były, jakie były). Myślę, że spokojnie da się to powtórzyć. Pytanie tylko: jak i kiedy? :D

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[...]Co nie zmienia faktu, że Nadal loty w tym sezonie obniżył. Ja to szacuję na około 70% możliwości z zeszłego roku.[...]


Zdradziłbyś wzór, którego użyłeś do obliczenia procentowego spadku formy Nadala? Musiałeś pewnie wziąć pod uwagę bardzo dużo czynników - siłę fizyczną, szybkość serwisu, forehandu i co najmniej setkę innych. Od kogo jak kogo, ale od Ciebie chyba mogę wymagać odpowiedzi.


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PostZamieszczono: 24 wrz 2011, 10:48 
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Toteż napisałem, że "szacuję", a nie "obliczyłem" :]

A na jakiej podstawie mówi się, że ktoś jest w stuprocentowej dyspozycji?

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Nie mam bladego pojęcia, dlaczego u większości fanów Rafy wytworzyło się przekonanie, że forma z US Open 2010 jest jego NORMĄ, w szczególności serwisową.
Tenis pokazywany przez Nadala w Nowym Jorku był jednorazowym wyskokiem, potwierdzonym tym, iż podobna gra nigdy już u niego nie wystąpiła- na tak długim odcinku czasu.
Myślę, że jako ludzie generalnie zaznajomieni ze sportem znacie pojęcie szczytu formy, który u Hiszpana przypadł na lata 2008-2010 z przerwą na denną, drugą połowę roku 2009.
Przypominam niektórym, iż Nadal rozpoczął bardzo intensywną przygodę z ATP na najwyższym poziomie w wieku 17-18 lat, teraz ma ich ponad 25, a jak chyba większość pamięta, Federer zaczął, mniej więcej, w tym okresie życia dość mocno dołować, mimo faktu, że jego gra jest znacznie mniej uciążliwa dla organizmu oraz zdecydowanie później, niż u Rafaela, wystąpił u niego przełom w karierze.

Nadal znajduję się obecnie w okresie starzenia się, a nie tenisowego dorastania do pewnego optimum, jakie można osiągnąć u danego zawodnika.

A to, że zarówno Hiszpan, jak i mocno zdziadziały Federer robią takie wyniki, pomimo faktu, iż pierwszy gra słabiej, a drugi znajduje się o krok od tenisowego grobu, świadczą jedynie o sile obecnych rozgrywek i rzekomego, znakomitego zaplecza( najlepszego od lat 80 lol)

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