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Szkoda tego seta, mógł być kolejny szlem bez straty seta. W środowisku tenisowo-amatorskim słyszałem podejrzenia, jakoby ten pierwszy set Nadala z Argentyńczykiem był bardzo dziwny i mógł być ustawiony
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 18:47
autor: lake
Damian pisze:Diego jedynym który urwał seta.
Jedyne zagrożenie które wskazywałem przed turniejem. Zagrożenie to może za mocne słowo ale nie wiem czemu ciągle Was to dziwi.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 18:55
autor: Anula
11 tytuł RG !
Wynik z serii tych kosmicznych.
Zawiódł młody, nie zawiódł ten starszy.
Wielkie słowa uznania dla Hiszpana.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 19:15
autor: Kiefer
Może zaskoczę, ale cholernie podobała mi się reakcja Nadala po piłce meczowej, taka wyważona, ale widać w niej też świadomość swojej wielkości i dumę "znowu to zrobiłem", trochę może też zdziwienie, że to już tyle trwa i trwa. Wielki sportowiec.
To co zrobił Federer i Nadal w tym sporcie jest czymś niespotykanym, Djokovic przez wiele lat był dla nich równorzędnym rywalem i może jeszcze wróci, ale widać ile go to wszystko kosztowało.
Oczywiście trzeba ganić rocznik 90+, ale należy się też zachwycać Hiszpanem i Szwajcarem, oni po prostu łamią się wszelkim standardom. 20-17-12 = 49 tytułów Wielkiej trójki od Wimbledonu 2003.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 19:33
autor: Federasta20
Zdecydowanie należy docenić wielkość Fedala, a także Djokovicia, który przez tyle lat był w stanie z nimi regularnie walczyć. Słabość młodych jest rzeczą oczywistą, czemu chyba nikt nie zaprzecza, jednak styl w jakim Federer miażdżył innych New Ballsów i dopiero Nadal był w stanie mu się postawić, każe sugerować, że to jednak niesamowici gracze.
W takiej sytuacji trudno oczekiwać od tych roczników by się między nich wbili jak oni urządzają sobie regularne pięciosetówki z kim popadnie.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 20:11
autor: Mario
Kiefer pisze:20-17-12 = 49 tytułów Wielkiej trójki od Wimbledonu 2003.
Fakt, niesamowitej skali raczysko.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 20:13
autor: lake
Zaraz Was tu prześwięcą za wychwalanie wielkości Fedala w tym żałosnym tourze.
O nawet nie zdążyłem wysłać
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 20:44
autor: Kiefer
Mario pisze:
Kiefer pisze:20-17-12 = 49 tytułów Wielkiej trójki od Wimbledonu 2003.
Fakt, niesamowitej skali raczysko.
Ja odwrócę kota ogonem, nowotworem, w dodatku od lat postępującym są nie oni a cała reszta, zwłaszcza Ci urodzeni w latach powiedzmy 90-95 może nawet 96.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 20:52
autor: Mario
Nowotworem jest cały męski tenis, tu nie ma co odwracać.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 20:57
autor: Kiefer
Jak patrzę na to jak dobrze grał Nadal w tym finale to nie nazwę go nowotworem, gdyby ktoś nowy grał na tym poziomie i nie nazywał się Nadal to byśmy się zachwycali, a że to Rafa to się tym nudzimy. Jasne, że chciałem jego porażki, ale trudno nie docenić tego fenomenu, Thiem swą jednowymiarową grą nie ma czym Hiszpana ugryźć, Nadal jest po prostu mądrzejszy, w grze na małe kara też ośmieszał Austriaka.
Nadal clinches the Roland Garros final in straight sets for the fifth time
Another Roland Garros, another round of history made by Rafael Nadal.
The World No. 1 beat first-time Grand Slam finalist Dominic Thiem 6-4, 6-3, 6-2 to clinch his 11th title on the Parisian terre battue. He is now one of just four players to claim three or more major championships after turning 30 (also Roger Federer, Rod Laver and Ken Rosewall). Nadal will retain his spot atop the ATP Rankings on Monday thanks to the victory.
Thiem was trying to become just the second Austrian to earn a major trophy, and he was the only man to defeat Nadal on clay over the past two seasons. This is how the final unfolded...
SET 1 — Nadal wins 6-4 (59 minutes)
In a way, it was no surprise that Rafael Nadal got off to a fast start, winning the first six points of the match and breaking for a 2-0 lead. But if there were any thoughts of the top seed immediately running through Dominic Thiem for his 11th title on Court Philippe-Chatrier, the Austrian dismissed those when he recovered that early break against the Spaniard, loosening up and taking massive cuts from the baseline.
The first set featured many long, grinding rallies, with the first seven games lasting more than 45 minutes. Thiem struggled to land his first serve, making them just 45 per cent of the time, and winning just 57 per cent of those points. But the good news is that he was looking to put the match on his racquet, crushing forehands and controlling the baseline. The eight-time clay-court ATP World Tour champion showed he was not afraid of the moment in his maiden major final, whipping high, heavy shots to Nadal's backhand before stepping in to attack the first short ball he got, even jumping into some backhands just to take them early.
But the problem with being very aggressive is opening up the possibility of more mistakes. And while Thiem did get off to a fast start, all it took was one lapse to slip against Nadal, and that's what happened as the right-hander served at 4-5. The 24-year-old missed a simple backhand volley into the open court — he was 0/4 at net in the first set — to fall behind, and then made three consecutive groundstroke errors to hand the Spaniard the opening set.
While Nadal camped way back to return Thiem’s serve, the No. 7 seed stood up on returns, looking to be the aggressor from the first shot. He did hit three double faults in the first set, as well.
Nadal
First-Set Stats
Player First-Serve % First-Serve Pts Won Second-Serve Pts Won Winners Unforced Errors
Rafael Nadal 65% 76% 55% 10 12
Dominic Thiem 45% 57% 43% 11 18
SET 2 — Nadal wins 6-3 (52 minutes)
Nadal wasted no time jumping on Thiem's lapse from the end of the first set. While the Spaniard took advantage of short balls and even snuck into net successfully, he started the second set by putting the aggressive Austrian in uncomfortable positions, from which Thiem made errors.
In fact, Thiem made eight unforced errors in the first three games of the set to fall behind a quick break. And while he landed 83 per cent of first serves (15/18) through two service games, a massive improvement, the early break was too much to overcome. Nadal has lost just nine tour-level matches on clay after winning the first set, with the last instance coming two years ago in Rio de Janeiro against Pablo Cuevas.
Thiem began to find his range again from the baseline, but Nadal did not allow him to control rallies. The seventh seed had an opportunity to get back on serve at 2-4, but could not do enough at net, and the Spaniard saved the break opportunity with a backhand winner. The Austrian slightly dialed back his aggression to avoid too many unforced errors. Therefore, he never quite pushed the World No. 1 into positions in rallies from which he could not neutralise with his next shot.
Thiem
Second-Set Stats
Player First-Serve % First-Serve Pts Won Second-Serve Pts Won Winners Unforced Errors
Rafael Nadal 59% 84% 46% 6 7
Dominic Thiem 78% 68% 50% 14 12
SET 3 — Nadal wins 6-2 (51 minutes)
Thiem did well to mentally stay engaged, recovering from 0/40 in his first service game of the set. He then managed to save another break point at 1-1 with a backhand drop shot, taking advantage of Nadal's deep return position.
But the Spaniard earned the decisive blow soon after, stepping into an inside-out forehand to force Thiem into a slice forehand, which he missed to give Nadal a daunting lead.
Thiem attempted to problem-solve, mixing up his return position and standing back more often. But that allowed the 10-time champion to set his feet and dictate play with his forehand from the first ball of rallies. Nadal appeared to suffer from cramp in his left hand, receiving treatment on multiple occasions early in the set, but that did not visibly affect his play
If his performance was not already impressive enough, Nadal earned a double-break lead by finding an incredible angle on a crosscourt backhand return from well behind the baseline, forcing Thiem to go for broke down the line and make an error. Nadal then clinched the triumph on his fifth championship point, when Thiem flicked a backhand return long.
Third-Set Stats
Player First-Serve % First-Serve Pts Won Second-Serve Pts Won Winners Unforced Errors
Rafael Nadal 83% 85% 25% 10 5
Dominic Thiem 56% 77% 14% 9 12
Did You Know?
- Nadal is now 111-2 in best-of-five matches on clay.
- The Spaniard holds an 86-2 record at Roland Garros.
- The 32-year-old has won five of his 11 championship matches on Court Philippe-Chatrier in straight sets.
Match Stats
Player First-Serve % First-Serve Pts Won Second-Serve Pts Won Winners Unforced Errors
Rafael Nadal 68% 82% 46% 26 24
Dominic Thiem 57% 67% 34% 34 42
Btw. uwielbiam te humorki Stopy, dzisiaj znowu momentami komentarz od breaka w drugim secie jakby ktoś z forum siedział w kabinie.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 21:51
autor: DUN I LOVE
Nie wiem, czy o obecności Djorkaeffa nie przeczytał u nas.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 22:23
autor: Damian
Rafael Nadal ‘should be punished’ for breaking crucial French Open rule during final
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RAFAEL NADAL should have been punished for breaking a crucial rule during the French Open final, claims Greg Rusedski and Annabel Croft.
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17:54, Sun, Jun 10, 2018 | UPDATED: 19:13, Sun, Jun 10, 2018
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Nadal won his 11th French Open title by comfortably beating Dominic Thiem 6-4, 6-3, 6-2.
Dduring the third set the world No 1 twice called for the physio to come and attend to his wrist problem.
However, Nadal has since claimed that the issue was down to cramp - but tournament rules prevent players from having treatment for that issue.
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“This is quite extraordinary,” Rusedski told Eurosport.
“He stops the point and he is allowed to have a medical time-out to diagnose it, but he is not allowed to have treatment for cramping.
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This is very contentious because he should probably have got a time violation after the assessment
Greg Rusedski
“Earlier in the tournament during [Robin] Haase against [David] Goffin they said ‘no you’re not allowed any treatment, you have got to get on and play with it’.
“So this is very contentious because he should probably have got a time violation after the assessment and they need to figure out what the rules are there.”
Croft added that Nadal will now have to fully explain himself for breaking the rule.
“You could almost see the hand start cramping up as the fingers go stiff - it’s a horrible feeling,” Croft said.
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The Spaniard avoided an injury scare to beat Dominic Thiem in straight sets
“Maybe he was thinking 'I need to get this tape off, I need an assessment'.
“What I was really shocked at was that he told us it was cramp in the interview afterwards and then he had treatment for it.
“I know he will have a lot of questions about that in the press conference because you are not meant to have treatment for cramp
DUN I LOVE pisze:Nie wiem, czy o obecności Djorkaeffa nie przeczytał u nas.
Uśmiałem się z tego, bo zwróciłem uwagę na obecność Djorkaeffa co napisałem, a nie dostrzeglem Zizu.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 22:37
autor: Robertinho
Tytuł dla Nadala zgodnie z planem, nie bardzo jest się o czym rozpisywać. Wspomnę tylko o Thiemie, który przecież gdyby nie Hiszpan, miałby już dwa tytuły RG. No niesłychanie jednostronny tenisista.
Oglądając na spokojnie mecz z Cecchinato, nie tylko skreśliłem Austriaka przed finałem, ale też ogólnie sporo zrozumiałem. Śledząc cyferki, byłem za wygraną Thiema i to łatwą, ale gdybym to wydział na żywo, moje tenisowe serce wskazałoby Włocha. To jak Dominika co rusz ośmieszał, było wręcz niesamowite. Ta jednowymiarowość gry, brak finezji, tego czegoś ekstra, strasznie wychodził u niego. I to się też mści w innych sytuacjach, kiedy trzeba coś pokazać poza cegłą, albo mierzyć się na niej z graczem, na którym takie łupanko wrażenia nie robi. Napisałem, że pewnie wygra to RG w końcu i może faktycznie tak się stanie, ale pozostaje mocno ograniczonym tenisowo zawodnikiem.
Cóż, za kilka miesięcy przekonamy się, czy najgorsze w tym sezonie już za nami.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 22:42
autor: lake
ELEVEN FOR ELEVEN
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SUNDAY 10 JUNE 2018 - IAN CHADBAND
Eleven amazing facts about Rafa’s record-extending “Undecima” at Roland-Garros.
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Rafa’s triumphs have come in three spells too, starting with a four-win streak between 2005 and 2008 and then another five between 2010 and 2014. The bad news for his opponents? He’s now started another streak, having won the last two titles... and, doubtless, counting.
Three
Rafa is the only man ever to have won 11 titles at the same event - and he has now done this at three separate tournaments, having also won 11 times in Monte-Carlo and Barcelona. Martina Navratilova’s all-time record of 12 wins in Chicago between 1978 and 1992 will be his next target.
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Match points: Nadal vs Thiem
Four
Rafa has won all 11 finals he has contested at Roland-Garros and no man has even taken him to five sets during that run. Altogether, he has lost just six sets in Roland-Garros finals. Even more incredibly, he’s lost only 25 sets in total during his Roland-Garros career and didn’t lose a single one in either his 2008, 2010 or 2017 campaigns.
Five
Never mind 11, this was win number 111 in best-of-five-set matches on clay for Nadal - and he’s only ever lost twice during that same period. This was his 86th victory against two losses at Roland-Garros.
Six
Only two men can make the claim of being a Rafa tamer at Roland-Garros: Swede Robin Soderling in the round of 16 in 2009 and Novak Djokovic in the 2015 quarter-finals.
Seven
Nadal, in his 14th tournament, is the leading performer in Roland-Garros history with his 86-2 record. That’s 21 more wins here than Roger Federer (65-16), Novak Djokovic (63-13) and Guillermo Vilas (58-17).
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Eight
Rafa has beaten every opponent he has faced at Roland-Garros during ‘La Undecima’ run - and no-one can boast a winning record against him here. Robin Soderling won famously in 2009 but lost on three other occasions and while Djokovic beat him in 2015, that only came after six defeats at Rafa’s hands. Even Roger Federer, his greatest rival, has a 0-5 record here against Nadal.
Nine
Nadal’s ‘Undecima’ was his 57th career clay-court title - that’s eight more than any other man in the Open era, eclipsing Vilas’s total of 49.
Ten
At 24, Dominic Thiem, Rafa’s unfortunate opponent on Sunday, was the youngest Roland-Garros men’s finalist since Rafa himself in 2010 - the year in which Nadal became a five-time champion here.
Eleven
In 2005, when Nadal started his title-winning run here, Jacques Chirac was still the President of France, George W. Bush was the US President and the video-sharing website YouTube was founded.
To nie ich wina, że reszta nie potrafi ich pokonać. Jeśli kogoś nazywać rakiem to ich rywali, zwłaszcza młode pokolenie. Zgadzam się w tej kwestii z Kieferem.
Re: Roland Garros 2018
: 10 cze 2018, 23:03
autor: Robertinho
A kogo tu, poza Zverevem, krytykować? "Talenty" dobijające ćwierćwiecza, bądź też trzydziestki? Jakichś patafianów, mających problemy, żeby w ogóle wygrywać mecze na poziomie ATP? Wiecznych połamańców i ludzi mających problemy z motywacją? Dajmy spokój.